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		<title>By: sugar</title>
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		<dc:creator>sugar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment. Yeah CP is a hard topic, just like religion but it’s always interesting to see reasons why people are against it or for it. 

“Also, I didn&#039;t know that CP was in part based on the idea that society was banking on an afterlife where God was going to take care of things...interesting....”

After many research, I did find that the reason for CP was to punish the person... who says dying is a punishment? 

I wrote it for the purpose of countries that base itself on ‘equal’ rights then decides to make adjustments for the same crime.  
Lol this essay was actually a formal argument essay writing for school. I wanted to see different point of views. 

&#039;provokes monotonous justice&#039;
That line means equal, unchanging or same justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. Yeah CP is a hard topic, just like religion but it’s always interesting to see reasons why people are against it or for it. </p>
<p>“Also, I didn&#8217;t know that CP was in part based on the idea that society was banking on an afterlife where God was going to take care of things&#8230;interesting&#8230;.”</p>
<p>After many research, I did find that the reason for CP was to punish the person&#8230; who says dying is a punishment? </p>
<p>I wrote it for the purpose of countries that base itself on ‘equal’ rights then decides to make adjustments for the same crime.<br />
Lol this essay was actually a formal argument essay writing for school. I wanted to see different point of views. </p>
<p>&#8216;provokes monotonous justice&#8217;<br />
That line means equal, unchanging or same justice.</p>
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		<title>By: KRoc</title>
		<link>http://www.heavenskyy.com/the-excusable-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>KRoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I didn&#039;t know that CP was in part based on the idea that society was banking on an afterlife where God was going to take care of things...ineresting....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I didn&#8217;t know that CP was in part based on the idea that society was banking on an afterlife where God was going to take care of things&#8230;ineresting&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: KRoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>KRoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, fun debate, good article. Course, it&#039;s a tricky topic, everyone&#039;s bound to have an opinion on CP. I agree with Sugar, crime in cities is usually due to higher population + the fact that usually lower income families can only afford to live in cities, and lower income people are more likely to commit crimes for several reasons - poverty, literacy, education, local/home violence etc. etc. 

Course, you go out into the burbs and you have different crimes with higher rates like domestic abuse, drug abuse etc. etc. Meth is huge in the country...don&#039;t ask me why. 

As for the actual topic of CP you raise interesting questions about whether or not death is more cruel then life in prison. I actually believe life in prison is far more cruel then death...and that&#039;s one of the main reasons I&#039;m totally against CP. Too easy. Jail is a dreary, miserable, dangerous world and I&#039;d be very happy to watch killers and rapists rot in. But it&#039;s also not a very progressive opinion is it? 

If I were to be progressive and modern I&#039;d have to say therapy, counseling, rehabilitation, education etc. etc. Murders, rapists and kidnappers all have mental issues (obv) and why not try and &#039;correct the problem&#039; and learn to detect these problems in people in order to stop their suffering and the suffering of others? I think I&#039;m off topic now. 

Having said that, the article is well written, I had a little difficulty following some parts but that&#039;s probably because it was written with a little more of an academic edge then I&#039;m used to. I really like the line 
&#039;provokes monotonous justice&#039;. I&#039;m not sure I get it, but I just like those three words in a row. 

I&#039;ll smartinate one day, don&#039;t you worry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, fun debate, good article. Course, it&#8217;s a tricky topic, everyone&#8217;s bound to have an opinion on CP. I agree with Sugar, crime in cities is usually due to higher population + the fact that usually lower income families can only afford to live in cities, and lower income people are more likely to commit crimes for several reasons &#8211; poverty, literacy, education, local/home violence etc. etc. </p>
<p>Course, you go out into the burbs and you have different crimes with higher rates like domestic abuse, drug abuse etc. etc. Meth is huge in the country&#8230;don&#8217;t ask me why. </p>
<p>As for the actual topic of CP you raise interesting questions about whether or not death is more cruel then life in prison. I actually believe life in prison is far more cruel then death&#8230;and that&#8217;s one of the main reasons I&#8217;m totally against CP. Too easy. Jail is a dreary, miserable, dangerous world and I&#8217;d be very happy to watch killers and rapists rot in. But it&#8217;s also not a very progressive opinion is it? </p>
<p>If I were to be progressive and modern I&#8217;d have to say therapy, counseling, rehabilitation, education etc. etc. Murders, rapists and kidnappers all have mental issues (obv) and why not try and &#8216;correct the problem&#8217; and learn to detect these problems in people in order to stop their suffering and the suffering of others? I think I&#8217;m off topic now. </p>
<p>Having said that, the article is well written, I had a little difficulty following some parts but that&#8217;s probably because it was written with a little more of an academic edge then I&#8217;m used to. I really like the line<br />
&#8216;provokes monotonous justice&#8217;. I&#8217;m not sure I get it, but I just like those three words in a row. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll smartinate one day, don&#8217;t you worry.</p>
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		<title>By: sugar</title>
		<link>http://www.heavenskyy.com/the-excusable-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>sugar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My statement is an opinion, just like to say criminals are afraid of dying because if they were, why would they commit a crime for which the punishment is death?

The big cities have higher crimes because there are more people. When you look at crime rate and compare them, you have to factor the population first, then the crime rate.  Most statistic shows that murder are highest in small towns than larger cities base on its population deduction.  The countries that abolished capital punishment, Canada for an example have a lower murder rate than U.S.  what do that say?

The question what is cruel and unusual, is my whole point. It’s to point that a country that base itself on ‘right’ and ‘equality’ needs to stop making diversity or realize that we are all different. They can’t say one thing, then do another. Cruel and unusual is really differ from each individual because it’s base on what each person experienced or grew up with. What is cruel to one person might not seem cruel to another. Is anyone of them wrong? No! It’s an opinion. 

“One other factor (in some cases) is the lingering fear of the crime victim.  There is no closure for the victims, particularly when when we have goofy lawmakers granting convicts furloughs and pardons.”

I believe regardless of what happens to the convict, the victim will always have lingering fear; it comes with the territory of having your world shifted upside down. I am not sure that every victim will agree that they need the convict dead in order to receive closure, because again that depends on each person’s believe and experience.  I mean I kwon people that bad things happened to them not once but three times, by three different people.
 
I hope that one day we will have real lawmakers who need to stop granting convicts for pardons when they committed murder or some other form of hideous crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My statement is an opinion, just like to say criminals are afraid of dying because if they were, why would they commit a crime for which the punishment is death?</p>
<p>The big cities have higher crimes because there are more people. When you look at crime rate and compare them, you have to factor the population first, then the crime rate.  Most statistic shows that murder are highest in small towns than larger cities base on its population deduction.  The countries that abolished capital punishment, Canada for an example have a lower murder rate than U.S.  what do that say?</p>
<p>The question what is cruel and unusual, is my whole point. It’s to point that a country that base itself on ‘right’ and ‘equality’ needs to stop making diversity or realize that we are all different. They can’t say one thing, then do another. Cruel and unusual is really differ from each individual because it’s base on what each person experienced or grew up with. What is cruel to one person might not seem cruel to another. Is anyone of them wrong? No! It’s an opinion. </p>
<p>“One other factor (in some cases) is the lingering fear of the crime victim.  There is no closure for the victims, particularly when when we have goofy lawmakers granting convicts furloughs and pardons.”</p>
<p>I believe regardless of what happens to the convict, the victim will always have lingering fear; it comes with the territory of having your world shifted upside down. I am not sure that every victim will agree that they need the convict dead in order to receive closure, because again that depends on each person’s believe and experience.  I mean I kwon people that bad things happened to them not once but three times, by three different people.</p>
<p>I hope that one day we will have real lawmakers who need to stop granting convicts for pardons when they committed murder or some other form of hideous crime.</p>
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		<title>By: jpd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good commentary Sugar, although we disagree a little.

I would say that criminals ARE afraid of dying--- there is very clear evidence that when a town or county or state allows it&#039;s citizens to be armed, that violent crime goes down.  It&#039;s the big city areas that ban concealed weapons which have the highest crime stats.

Here is my take on the whole death penalty debate:  What is cruel and unusual?   To deny someone their liberty for the rest of their life?   Afterlife or not, you&#039;ve still removed the LIFE of the inmate.  Yet people have no problem taking their pets to the vet to be put to sleep when their quality of life is suffereing.  

One other factor (in some cases) is the lingering fear of the crime victim.  There is no closure for the victims, particularly when when we have goofy lawmakers granting convicts furloughs and pardons.   

It&#039;s a good debate, so thanks for posting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good commentary Sugar, although we disagree a little.</p>
<p>I would say that criminals ARE afraid of dying&#8212; there is very clear evidence that when a town or county or state allows it&#8217;s citizens to be armed, that violent crime goes down.  It&#8217;s the big city areas that ban concealed weapons which have the highest crime stats.</p>
<p>Here is my take on the whole death penalty debate:  What is cruel and unusual?   To deny someone their liberty for the rest of their life?   Afterlife or not, you&#8217;ve still removed the LIFE of the inmate.  Yet people have no problem taking their pets to the vet to be put to sleep when their quality of life is suffereing.  </p>
<p>One other factor (in some cases) is the lingering fear of the crime victim.  There is no closure for the victims, particularly when when we have goofy lawmakers granting convicts furloughs and pardons.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good debate, so thanks for posting!</p>
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